Looks like the Cingular 8525 (aka HTC Hermes) is getting close.
I can’t upgrade until August 2007, but let’s see if I’m going to start looking at my 8125 in disgust when the 8525 is available within the next month or so.
The 8525 has a 400 MHz Samsung processor, while the 8125 is 200 MHz TI OMAP. Apples and oranges. Can’t tell anything from that. Like comparing Intel to PPC. MHz is just a number unless you’re talking the exact same processor, but it’s probably faster. I’m getting used the speed (or lack thereof) of the 8125. They both have the same RAM/ROM (not enough). Same operating system (Windows Mobile 5 Phone Edition).
The screen appears to be the same resolution. The 8525 is slightly wider, but a tad thinner. Little difference. The default battery is slightly more powerful in the 8525.
The big selling point of the 8525 is the networking. While the 8125 connects to the Internet using GPRS/EDGE, the 8525 uses UMTS (universal mobile telecommunications system) to go over the new Cingular HSPDA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) network. Cingular’s trade name for it is 3G, designed to compete with Verizon’s EVDO. Think of the GPRS/EDGE that devices currently use like the old dial-up modem, and 3G/EVDO is like a cable or DSL modem. Yeah, one can (and they are) nitpick which is better/faster…EVDO or 3G. But that’s the same silly cable vs. DSL argument. Both are much faster than the older way.
The catch is that like broadband modems were circa 1997, it’s only good if you can get it. Cingular’s 3G network is still rolling out, mostly to metropolitan areas. No Trenton or Philadelphia on the list, so I’d be out of luck locally. If you live in a more remote area, the new networking isn’t going to make a difference in your life and you’ll pay for something that may take years to get to you. There hasn’t been any official word as to how much Cingular’s 3G costs on a phone since there are no phones out for it yet, but unlimited 3G laptop plans (using a PC card) start at $60/month with a voice plan. Yikes.
Looking at the picture, it looks like HTC/Cingular made some functional improvements over the Wizard/8125. The keyboard has the number keys in a more logical layout (over the Y, U, I, H, J, K, B, N & M keys…like on an external keyboard). My 8125 has them only across the top row of keys. Typing a lot of numbers is a royal pain. Also, there is “Start” and “OK” buttons on the d-pad. I have a hack for that now.
So bottom line…I don’t think my gadget envy will get me on this one.
9 responses to “Cingular 8125 vs. 8525”
Thanks for the article… I just got an 8125 about 3 months ago and now I keep seeing things about the 8525 on Hofo… but reading your post made me feel a lot better. I too live in PA and the area I live in won’t get covered by 3G for a while I’m sure…
I was using the Palm LifeDrive as a laptop replacement, with an Infrared full-size keyboard and Nokia cell phone. I prefer the total integration I have with my new 8125; however, is there such a thing as a remote keyboard? I do a lot of typing.
You can buy a Bluetooth keyboard, they work great with Windows Mobile.
I have the 8525 and vista ultimate on my pc. I cant get vista to reconize my phone as a modem? I was able to sync ok thru the mobile device center but when I activate the phone as a modem vista dose nothing and when I go in manually it dose not see the device. Any help would be greatly appreciates.
I’m having the same problem as Keith listed in #4 (vista not recognizing 8525 modem and/or driver). Does anyone have any recommendations? Keith did you ever find a solution?
I did, take a look at article http://www.terranettech.net/DisplayPg.aspx?codeid=1128
I think this will help any questions you can contact me from the terranet site.
I have found a solution take a look at
Any question yo can contact me at this site.
I visited the site provided above. However, the links to the drivers and documentation seem to be dead. Also, I’m not sure how to reach you via the terranet site. Can you provide any additional guidance for either of these problems?
Sorry to be so high maintenance. I’ve tried to get Cingular support to help, but now that I have Vista they refuse to support the modem feature unless I pay for a SECOND unlimited data plan for the SAME phone.
I just purchased a refurbished 8125 from the Cingular website for $49. I just couldn’t resist. Getting a touch screen PDA a this price was just to tempting. I hosed my upgrade option doing it, but I figure this is a lot of device for the money.